Huh? Wha?

Mar. 14th, 2006 02:21 pm
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I was looking up something called "American Girl" dolls since I am utterly obscure to these new fangled toys. I was interested because it somehow got related with VH1's "I Love Toys" marathon.

One of the links I found, however, included an article on conservative Christians shunning this toy because it had to do with a group that had been known to be pro-abortion?

[livejournal.com profile] delennamachoo, I'm surprised you didn't talk about this one. Or did you? I can't tell, this all looks wacky to me.

Date: 2006-03-14 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delennamachoo.livejournal.com
I don't really believe there is logic to it. I don't even have a problem with them thinking abortion or homosexuality are wrong. I have a problem with them wanting to impose their beliefs on me and future generations of women as law. Being pro-choice doesn't make someone have an abortion. Being pro-life makes someone not have an abortion (South Dakota's new law with its lack of incest clause makes me insane).

Whether or not I marry someone of the same sex or have an abortion affects them not at all, except that they can't stand that it's happening. They convince themselves these things will bring about the downfall of society or the wrath of God (if there is one), but all societies fall and they have no right to force their God's views upon me/you/etc.

On a side note, writing off pro-choice as pro-murder allows them not to have to look at the other side of the argument very deeply. To realize there are people like you and I on the pro-choice side would shake the foundations of their argument in many cases and they might have to CHANGE their stance *gasp*.

Date: 2006-03-14 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanjo.livejournal.com
I think your side note hits it on the head, that if they equate it with murder, they can just write it off as a sin without even thinking about its implications. Their refusal to take any sort of a middle ground even when rape and incest is concerned puts them squarely in the extremist category.

South Dakota's law makes my head explode. It also makes me want to open a clinic with bus service on the SoDak/Minn border. If only I had some capital.

Date: 2006-03-14 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delennamachoo.livejournal.com
One good thing about their law is that it was similar exclusionary language that helped strike down the abortion laws in the first place. Of course, there was more to it, but that did seem to play a part. Based on what I've been reading about some of the decisions involved in the original Roe v. Wade, I'm hoping SD's attempt to strike down Roe v. Wade will actually reaffirm it.

Date: 2006-03-14 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanjo.livejournal.com
You're definitely up on the ins and outs of this more than I am. I look forward to reading what you've got to say!

Date: 2006-03-14 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delennamachoo.livejournal.com
I had a big argument with unhappy results during which a former friend compared being gay to choosing to eat chocolate cookies. Roe v. Wade came up in the fight, and I decided it was time I do some research. I really wanted some idea of the potential for its demise. I AM PREPARED. ;)

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